Niko's referral commission — what Prisma owes
Two GPM grant clients referred by Niko: Hair Spring Beauty and Elly Trinh Beauty. Prepared 13 Nov 2026 from WhatsApp history and Notion. Nothing has been paid yet.
Conclusion — pay Niko
RM 9,460
RM 6,460 is firm and can be paid now. The other RM 3,000 (Hair Spring) is a provisional figure that needs one confirmation from accounts.
Possible range once Hair Spring is confirmed: RM 8,640 to RM 11,860.
結論：建議付 Niko RM 9,460。其中 RM 6,460（退還墊款 3,800 + Elly Trinh 佣金 2,660）已可確定；Hair Spring 的 RM 3,000 為暫定數，待帳目確認。
How the RM 9,460 is made up
| Item | Amount | Status |
|---|---|---|
| Refund of the money Niko advanced for Elly Trinh (Oct 2023) | RM 3,800 | Firm |
| Elly Trinh commission: 20% × RM 13,300 | RM 2,660 | Firm |
| Hair Spring commission: 20% × RM 15,000 | RM 3,000 | Provisional |
| Total | RM 9,460 |
What to do next
- Pay RM 6,460 now. Both parts are agreed in writing by Jay and Niko, and nothing in the records disputes them.
- Jas / accounts confirm one Hair Spring number in AutoCount: how much Prisma paid out under the supplier-funding arrangement (the records point to RM 15,000).
- Pay the Hair Spring part once that number is confirmed. If it is RM 15,000, the commission is RM 3,000.
Details
1. Refund RM 3,800 FirmNiko paid Elly Trinh's first payment from her own pocket. Everyone agrees it goes back to her in full.
- Niko confirmed she paid RM 3,800 in advance for Elly Trinh. Niko group, 13 Nov 2025
- Jay: "我們要先還 Niko RM3800，這是那時她幫 Herry 墊付的錢". Elly Trinh client group, 23 Sep 2025
- Jay's case summary: "Refund to Niko: RM3,800 (full refund). Deposits are not commission offsets." Niko group, 2 Jan 2026
- No payment slip or "received" message exists anywhere in the records. It is still unpaid.
2. Elly Trinh commission RM 2,660 FirmPrisma kept RM 13,300 from this project after refunds. 20% of that is RM 2,660.
| Money in / out at Prisma | RM |
|---|---|
| Government grant paid to Prisma (Feb 2025) | 10,640 |
| Niko's advance | 3,800 |
| Herry's deposit | 3,000 |
| Total received | 17,440 |
| Refund to Niko | −3,800 |
| Refund to Herry | −340 |
| Kept by Prisma | 13,300 |
Source: Jay's "Elly Trinh Beauty – GPM Grant Case (Summary & Clarification)", Niko group, 2 Jan 2026. The grant figure is also confirmed by Andy in the client group (10 Jun and 11 Jul 2025).
Why the government paid RM 10,640 and not RM 13,300
- The approved project was RM 19,000; the government pays 70% = RM 13,300.
- The first RM 3,800 came from Niko personally. The grant only recognises payments from the client's company account, so that part was not counted.
- 70% × (19,000 − 3,800) = RM 10,640, which is what arrived. Shortfall: RM 2,660.
- Herry agreed to cover the shortfall from his RM 3,000 deposit, leaving RM 340 to return to him. Herry's own calculation, client group, 11 Jul 2025
Other figures that were floated, and why they are not used
- RM 1,840 (20% × 9,200) and RM 1,080 (20% × 5,400): earlier workings from 24–29 Dec 2025. They were replaced by the 2 Jan 2026 summary, which uses RM 13,300 as the base.
- "13,980" in a 29 Dec 2025 message is an arithmetic slip: 10,640 + 3,000 − 340 = 13,300.
- RM 1,560 on the debtor aging report (Andy, 11 Jul 2025) would mean Herry still owes Prisma. Herry's version is that Prisma owes him RM 340. Jay's summary follows Herry's version. This affects Herry's refund only, not Niko's base.
Not deducted: Prisma's own project costs. No cost figure exists in any record, so RM 13,300 is cash kept, not profit after costs. If the partners want to deduct costs, the amount has to come from AutoCount.
3. Hair Spring commission RM 3,000 ProvisionalPrisma billed RM 30,000. About half appears to have gone back out under a supplier-funding arrangement. 20% of the remaining RM 15,000 is RM 3,000.
| What the records show | RM | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Invoices IV2310-001 + IV2310-002 | 30,000 | Notion case page, "verified from AutoCount" |
| Received 27 Oct 2023 (laptop item, later removed from the grant claim) | 2,999 | Notion case page |
| Received 31 Oct 2023 | 15,000 | Notion case page |
| Received 27 Jun 2024 | 12,001 | Notion; Mr Ong asked about this exact amount on 26 Jun 2024 |
| Paid out by Prisma: two nominated "Grant Project Manager" roles, 2 × RM 2,500 × 3 months | 15,000 | Client group, 24 Jun 2024. Payment itself is not evidenced |
| Grant received by the client | not stated | "27 Nov 2024 received", client group |
Jay's own working sent to Niko on 24 Dec 2025 uses the same logic: "30k × 50% × 20%" = RM 3,000.
Other ways to calculate it
| Basis | Base | 20% |
|---|---|---|
| Also deduct the RM 2,999 laptop Prisma gave the client | 12,001 | 2,400 |
| Used here: 30,000 less the RM 15,000 paid out | 15,000 | 3,000 |
| Jay's June 2024 rule: "software money × 70%" (27,001 × 70%) | 18,901 | 3,780 |
| Nothing was paid out at all | 27,001 | 5,400 |
This is where the overall range comes from: lowest RM 8,640 is Jay's own total to Niko on 24 Dec 2025 (3,800 + 1,840 + 3,000); highest RM 11,860 is 3,800 + 2,660 + 5,400.
What is still missing: proof of how much Prisma actually paid out (the "supplier sponsor" amount). The Notion page marks it "to be identified". The invoices, slips and the grant screenshot were sent as attachments, which the message history does not keep. Prisma's own costs for this project are also unrecorded.
4. Open questions 3 openOne number from accounts and two decisions from the partners.
| Question | Who can answer | Changes the total? |
|---|---|---|
| Hair Spring: how much did Prisma pay out under the supplier-funding arrangement? | Accounts (AutoCount); Andy, former BD staff | Yes. RM 15,000 gives RM 3,000 |
| Hair Spring: "deduct 30% first, then × 20%", or only × 20%? Asked 29 Dec 2025, never answered. | Jay and Jas | Yes |
| Should Prisma's own costs be deducted before the 20%? No cost figures exist for either project. | Jay and Jas | Yes, downward |
5. Timeline Referred in Oct 2023. Both grants paid by Feb 2025. Commission first raised Nov 2024. Still unpaid.
- Oct 2023: Niko introduces both clients. Hair Spring invoiced RM 30,000. Niko advances RM 3,800 for Elly Trinh.
- Jun 2024: Hair Spring final payment RM 12,001; the RM 15,000 two-role arrangement is set up.
- 27 Nov 2024: Hair Spring client receives the grant.
- 29 Nov 2024: Prisma internal note: "After close case, we need to discuss Niko's commission fee."
- Feb 2025: Government pays Prisma RM 10,640 for Elly Trinh.
- 11 Jul 2025: Herry sets out the RM 340 calculation and "退 Niko RM3800".
- 13 Nov 2025: "Niko commission x Prisma" group created; a Prisma intern is assigned to follow up.
- 24–29 Dec 2025: Several commission workings exchanged.
- 2 Jan 2026: Jay posts the Elly Trinh case summary (base RM 13,300).
- 12 Jan 2026: Prisma staff: "we will settle the payment by this week." No payment follows.
- Jan – Sep 2026: Niko asks for an update about twice a week. No reply after 12 Jan. Last message 7 Sep 2026.
6. Sources and limits What was read, and what could not be read.
- Read in full: the Niko commission group; the Hair Spring client group and two internal groups; the Elly Trinh client and internal groups; relevant direct messages between Jay, Jas and Niko; the Notion case page for Hair Spring; the case summary Jay forwarded on 13 Nov 2026.
- Not readable: attachments (invoices, bank slips, the debtor aging PDF, voice notes); AutoCount itself; four Notion pages that are not shared with the integration, including the "Understand case summary" page.
- Payments to Niko found: none, for either the refund or the commission.
- Every figure on this page comes from one of those sources. Where no source gives a number, the page says so and does not estimate.